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a ceasefire is reached in the middle east will the 7 it our break -- 72 our break lead to a lasting peace. >> and patrick buchan n on richard nixon's resignation. i'm antonio mora, more on . >> both sides agreed to a 72 hour humanitarian truth. >> it is critical to give civilians a reprieve. >> both parties said they'll leave their forces in place. >> whether or not this will hold, time will tell.
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>> we are coming for you, mark my words. >> details about an american suicide bomber. >> the florida man returned to the u.s. for months. >> they go there because they want to fight jihad. >> you have american passports. they come home. >> stay strong. >> the group na is facing some of the most severe challenges colour. >> president obama passed the my brothers keeper. >> it focuses on boys not girls. >> it's a missed opportunity in president. we begin with a breakthrough in the middle east. u.s. secretary-general ban ki-moon and secretary general announced parties had agreed to a 72 hour ceasefire in gaza to begin on friday. >> it's a lull of opportunity, a moment for the sides, the different facts to come together with the state of israel in an
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effort to try to address ways to find a sustainable ceasefire. >> that lull in the fighting comes hours after israeli prime minister binyamin netanyahu called up 16,000 reservists, and ruled out participating in a ceasefire preventing israel destroying hamas's vast network >>. >> translation: i do not agree to a proposal that does not allow the israeli defense to not complete the programme. >> hamas's military spokesperson said there can be no truce unless the 8-year occupation ned. more than 1400 palestinians have been kill, 8,000 wounded in the 24 days since fighting began. on the israeli side, 56 soldiers, three civilians and 1400 have been wounded.
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the pentagon urged israel to do more to protect civilians. the white house said there was little doubt israeli artillery was the source of an indefensible strike that killed 16 people at a united nations school in gaza on wednesday. >> it is clear that we need our allies in israel to do more to live up to the high standards they have set for themselves. >> the truce coming after a particularly brutal week of fighting. on thursday a palestinian tv company released footage of an ambulance racing to a market the scene of an explosion, to be greeted by another. 17 people were killed and more alone. >> for more we are joined by nick schifrin in gaza. >> the rhetoric is escalating, and then there's the 72 hour ceasefire. israel was unequivocal saying no ceasefire if we can't destroy the tunnels.
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if the ceasefire is unconditional will actions stop? >> no. secretary of state john kerry, who spoke from delhi, from new delhi india, he has said that what the stipulation is, is that nobody can move beyond where they are now. i think that is the key phrase in the ceasefire, meaning the israeli troops were inside of gaza, will remain there, will not do offensive operations. because they remain, mer allowed to push inside with the air strikes and operation targetting the tunnels. so what we heard from prime minister binyamin netanyahu this morning was probably foreshadowing of the ceasefire. this ceasefire does not say that all troops have the leave gaza. the opposite. is allows them to stay where they are and to keep going after the tunnels. on the palestinian side it's
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about humanitarian relief. this is three days where the palestinians are allowed to fix the electricity grid. behind me are the lights from israel. there's a huge blackout across the city. they'll be allowed to fix that. 400,000 people are displaced. they'll be allowed to go back to the noibure hood and see what the homes are. pick through the rubble, collect what they need and go back to the shelters that they are sleeping in. getting them more water. the sanitation is not working. all the things add up to the humanitarian crisis. that will give so many people here the relief to timely move op with their lives. >> thursday, the white house and the pentagon cam out more strongly before.
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the u.n. exploded in anger over the united nations school hit on wednesday. we saw on thursday a release of terrible images of a strike. despite all that tonight, and the announcement of the ceasefire, it doesn't mean that the fighting has stopped. >> no, it hasn't. there is a massive threat against hotels. along this coast. the mediterranean seas. the jrmans evacuate. they'll destroy buildings. there'll be operations no doubt until the ceasefire begins at 8 o'clock, 9 o'clock local time. the sense of relief is palpable in gaza city because they know that for three days there won't be fighting, they can pick up the pieces and figure out what can happen with their lives and whether they can resume their
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lives, and it will be not only on the humanitarian relief. they are looking at the tunnels and cairo. this allows a focus for a long-term ceasefire, happening to u.s. officials, israeli officials, hamas, intermediaries, qatar and turkey, they'll talk and get to the point where all sides can agree that enough is enough and agreement. >> hamas fired rockets tonight. the fighting continues until the accuracy fire begins. nick schifrin, good to have you with us. before the ceasefire was announced i spoke with representatives from both sides of the issue, starting with an vz jorz to the palestine -- jiz vor -- advisor to the palestinian leadership in israel. he's a fellow for middle east policy at the brookings institution. thank you for joining us.
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first, your reaction to prime minister binyamin netanyahu's comments on thursday, about destroying the tunnels, ceasefire or no ceasefire. given what the tunnels have been point. >> it's striking that if the tunnels are the problem, you know, there are tunnels under the gaza egypt border and egypt managed to game with the tunnels without killing 1400. if the tunnels are the problem, why is there a barrage of israeli firepower against palestinians in the gaza strip for 24 days. >> no one questions the right of israel to defend itself, but the way it has gone about doing that is unacceptable, given the enormous human cost on the palestinian side. >> you have said that you believe israelis are
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intentionally targetting civilians, despite the international backlash. do you believe what is the case? >> what i said is that the israeli war doctrine of overwhelming disproportionate force is aimed at putting pressure on and harming the civilian population. it may not target individual civilians on the ground, but certainly the goal is to make the civilian population suffer, and part of that we see in the destruction of the power plant and gaza has been plunged into darkness, with severe ramifications for pub lac health, since you cannot pump sewage without power. the 7--year-old blockade is a form of punishment. there's a sense that israeli policy is to pun irk the gazan
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population. the fact that 70 or 80% of those killed are civilians, and that is an acceptable ratio suggests that there's not a lot of value placed on palestinian life on the part of israel. >> what about hamas's responsibility. a broken ceasefire, refusing to stop fighting until the blockade is lifted. why be introns gent as your people are getting killed in the numbers that we are discussing, and parse of gaza are turned into rubble. >> well, i mean, there's two differents questions. hamas is insisting on a lifting of the blockade, which has gone on for seven years, and caused suffering to palestinians there. that, frankly, has not worked. if the goal was to weaken hamas, the opposite happened. hamas has remained in power, weakened bit events in egypt, not because of the 7-year
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blockade imposed by israel. and it has been able to obtain more sophisticated rockets than it had just a few years ago. so from a military security standpoint the blockade is not working. from a political stand point it's not working because hamas is there. >> it had lost tremendous popularity. before this all started, it's approval rating was minimal. unemployment was tremendous, the economy had fallen apart. the blockade, i am sure had a deal to do with that. hamas was not doing well as a governing body for gaza, that is true. the irony is that hamas was doing a poorly - a poor job governing and, in fact, its popularity as you said went down before the crisis. sense the crisis, it may have saved hamas politically, because naturally palestinians when
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under attack rally around the leaders, the flag, and there is a sense of palestinian solidarity certainly in the west bank, and palestinians in israel who are upset at seeing their palestinian brothers and sisters in gaza being treated this way. hamas has come out stronger in the last 24 days. again, the policy of trying to bomb hamas into submission or bomb gaza. >> submission simply doesn't work militarily it doesn't work, politically. i think if israel was looking for a deterrent rather than destroying gaza which is poor and destitute and besieged, a better deterrent is addressing the root causes of the conflict and dealing with the blockade. >> and the occupation of the rest of palestinian territory. dealing with the blockade,
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before stopping the fighting and killing is what i would argue is not the smartst thing to do for the spak of civilians -- sake of civilians in gaza. i know you think hamas shpt be isolated from the peace process. if hamas continues to refuse israel's right to exist and continues to have ongoing attacks on israel through the rockets and tunnels, how can peace? >> hamas is part of the palestinian political social fabric. it exists. we can't wish it out of resistance. what i'm calling for is coming to terms with reality. we may not like the actors on the political seconds. in israel there are actors in the ruling coalition of binyamin netanyahu, who openly oppose a 2-state solution and call for
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committing aprofit nis, and yet we don't like it. but we accept them as a reality. so you deal with the reality you have, and not the one that you wish for. >> if extremists in the government reject a 2-state solution can be get with. hamas can be dealt with in the framework of dealing with a ninified palestinian political landscape. after all, there is a reconciliation agreement in place, in which hamas gave up its own authority in the gaza strip , in favour of a reunified palestinian government, and that is something that should have been welcomed by the west, welcomed by israel, and it wasn't. so, you know, you have a palestinian president who is in charge of negotiating with israel.
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and not hamas. hamas can't be treated as though it were not real or doesn't exist or exists militarily or doesn't exist politically. don't. >> good to have you with us. >> joining us from tel aviv. a member for the knesset. he served as deputy defence minister. you were relieved of your duties because you criticised binyamin netanyahu's position to accept an earlier ceasefire with hamas, that hamas rejected anyway. you believe that israel needs to be more aggressive dealing with hamas. how far does israel need to go in light of a massive loss of civilian life. >> i have been saying it for a few weeks. we have to do what is necessary to protect our people.
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we cannot continue when you have dozens of tunnels beneath our borders. we left gaza in my opinion years ago. have you no jewish commoupties or sentiments. you have offensive tunnels. that is why we are still in gaza. dealing with the tunnels. >> it's not aggressive to get rid of the tunnels. do you advocate destroying any capability that hamas may have militarily, some full demilitarization of gaza, debts? >> i think eventually we have to get rid of hamas period. i think we should do it now. if the prime minister will not adapt my position to take the action today, for a year or two, look what happened to the people that live in gaza. they are hostages. look at what is happening to gaza. they have a chance to make it to
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singapore, making it into the afghanistan of the middle east. in the long run we have to upload hamas from gaza, there's no other choice. today we are dealing with the tunnels, tomorrow there's other means to come after us and put our life in danger. in some ways is this backfiring? >> collett argued that this is empowering hamas which, as you know, for all practical purposes was unpopular political basket gaza. >> it's gaining points. you have casualties on both side. they are using the civilians to protect the terrorists, targetting civilian population. every night i have to take the two daughters to live and sleep in the shelter. i think we have to say clearly, that people in gaza cannot vote down hamas. there's no democracy in gaza, it will be israel or other forces
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that have to bring down hamas. >> it's argued that israel has to accept reality, that hamas has to be part of a broader peace. hamas entered into piece with the palestinian authority. can israel make a deal with hamas though negotiators or authority? >> well, you look at the hamas charter. you look at the intentions. instead of putting the cement into the tunnels, they should have built infrastructure for schools, kindergartens, hospitals. hamas, i think, will not change. if the hamas will change, and accept whatever decisions, maybe we can talk. what i see today, the hamas is gaining former conflict. something blood of the people in gaza and israel. >> the idf is a sophisticated military.
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why are so many civilians getting killed in places the idf knows is not a military target. it may have been misfired rockets, that's not the case in the majority of the tragedies. >> we are doing our best not to hurt of the civilians. that's what we are trying to do. unlike hamas, committing a double war crime by using the civilians and targetting the civilians. you should aveningt the people -- ask the people giving thanks, why is hamas hiding in hospitals, why are they hiding in high schools. it is a war crime. not for his rail -- for israel. when we see civilians held in gaza, we are not happy in israel, we regret it. hamas is happy to see the pictures. they are using it day and night. it's part of their agenda to see the people of gaza suffering.
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>> talking about the suffering, the united nations relief and works agency says that the situation in gaza is at a breaking point. a quarter of the people have been displaced, the human right commissioner saying there's war crimes on both sides. why can't we stop the - this level of aggression that is killing so many people? >> what you say in the last few week, every time we accepted a ceasefire we ceased and they fired. it's obvious today - not to israel, look at the egyptians, and other countries involved in the conflict, i think hamas is trying to gain more points who do not care about the casualties, and i think at the beginning, and the reason i was fired from my position as deputy minister of defence, because prime minister binyamin netanyahu was willing to accept a premature ceasefire, and hamas not willing to accept it.
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i think we should ask the people in hamas what is the end goal. it is to fight with israel. else. >> what about lifting the blockade. is that not a possibility to try to give gaza some hope. >> first of all, let's go back to italy. in 2005, when we departed from gaza, there was no blockade. only after the hamas took over and made it into an entity, we have to make sure that they g had missiles. >> they were capable of smuggling rockets. we want the people to have a better life. that's the goal. we can't allow hamas to bring in ammunition. we allow them to get cement. look what happened. they used all the cement into the tunnels, offensive tunnels, one day i believe there'll be no blockade.
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we have to make sure hamas is not using it to acquire more weapons to be used against us. >> good to have you with us from tel aviv. >> now for more stories from around the world. we begin with the ebola in west africa, u.s. health officials on thursday recommends americans avoid unessential travel to ginee, liberia and sierra leone, the three countries hit the hardest. 700 doeths were confirmed including an american living in liberia. two other health workers have been affected by the virus. the government is bringing them to the u.s. for treatment. the house of representatives delayed a 5-week summer recess after failing to pass an immigration and security bill. the house leadership pulled the bill when they couldn't gather the votes needed. the proposal was a 659 emergency
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funding measure. the president asked for 3.7 billion. senate blocked a 2.7 billion bill to address the crisis. we end in the amazon region, where an indigenous tribe emerged and contacted outsiders, possibly for the first time. the video released by the indigenous authority shows men dressed in loin cloths, carrying bows, accepting a gift of food. they disappeared back into the forest. they likely came from peru, escaping illegal logging and drug traffickers. the indigenous authority indicates that there's as many as 77 tribes in the brazilian amazon with no contact with the outside world. that is some of what is happening around the world. coming up, pat buchanan joins us four years after nixon's resignation. and we talk about two cop backs,
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a pole shows a polarity of americans consider richard nixon to be the worst president, a man that lost his presidency in scandal. before watergate he was popular and a pan that came back from
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two losses to lead america. joining us is sinned kated columnist and author patrick buchanan, an advisor to nixon and regan, and author of a new book. pat, great to see you. before we can talk about nixon's comeback, let's set up what he was coming back from. he was a successful politician. he was a congressman, a senator from california, the second-youngest vice president under eisenhower, but lost the president until race to j.f.k. the kel vise debate. the first one is infamous. he lost the governor race to cavl , and the title of first chant are of your book is that he was a lose are in a party of losers. the republican party was in
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1964. >> that's right. richard nixon had a ruined career and we had a shattered party in 1964, down to one half of the size. when i scroiped nixon in 1965 we were talking about the end of the republican party. three years later richard nixon is taking the oath of office as president of the united states in a phenomenal comeback, in what the book tells you is how the man did it. a non-charismatic figure who lost the election, said "i'm through with politics, moved from new york and there he was, president of the united states. it's a great story. >> it is a great story, after nixon lost the gore's race -- governor assist race, he said he would be ending his career. you don't have nixon to kick around, because this is the last press conference.
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do you think at that moment he believed he was done. >> he was done. he packed up and went to new york to practice law. i believe this. after he got to new york or soon after that, wh when he saw gold water running for the nomination, and going down to defeat, the fact that he worked for goal waterer, harder than goal water. i think he saw himself as coming back. i know i did after that election. that's why i wept up and joined him, and went to visit him at a cocktail party in bellevue in 1965. i said "if you are going to run in 1968 i'd like to get aboard early. i taught he could make it at that point. i think he had to think so too. >> he must have had it in the back of his head. about the you went to him very early, before he started, you no know, getting anything together for 1968. you pretty much were his first
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campaign staff employee. >> exactly. what i saw, and i am sure he saw it too, and what i began to work on in 1956 was the fact that the gold water people routed in the general election had captured the american party. then you had the nixon september ris in the republican party, loyal to him from 1960 to 1962. they thought he was a loser, they liked the map, respected and honoured him. i felt if nixon could pull together his wing of the party, we could deny the nomination to anyone to the left of nixon, my fear was a rising number. >> nixon campaigned to people in the midterms or 1966. he, as you said, worked at uniting the different factions, gold water, romney,
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romney's dad. all these different warring factions, including the liberal wing of the party with nelson rockefeller. how similar is it to what we are seeing today with the tea party, the moderate, the libertarians,way can the g.o.p. learn from nixon, do you think there's anybody like nixon who would unite the fraction party. >> i think there's self. i think mitt romney is a figure who could unite the party, he's under suspicion. others said he ran is bad campaign, as it was said nixon ran a bad complain. in "66 they had to campaign for all elements and people in the party, from the right to the left. bring them together and run them for a nomination in the way that un items the party.
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from what i could see in "66 and '66 was a potential national "ics, because the -- coalition, because the party was cracking into three parts, george walls, southern populist. bobby kennedy, jean mccartney. antiwar left. joining the social revolution, and lindy johnson and humphrey in the center. i don't see the possibility for 49 state lapped slides like -- landslides like dixon got in '72. i think there's a narrow path to victory in 2016. >> he got the landslide. in a post scrip to the book, you say if nissan left the presidency, history would see him as a near great president. in the later years, he rehab it tated himself greatly and became a respected statesman. is that the big are comeback an
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book. >> it came back from a low than 1962. that is the comeback of an individual, who, frankly, was close to death after losing the presidency in california, had the lobitis attack. i was called in florida, where we were staying at his place and told that he had passed away. he came back physically and again to new york, and then he began writing books and presidents were calling him about foreign policy, and i thought he did a great job about standing up under the burdens he was carrying. an enormous number of people didn't. it's an amazing human story, and an amazing story of a man coming back from defeat again and again and again. >> one more question about nixons, we had doug brinkly on the show to talk about his new
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book, the nixen tapes. listening to the tape, it's shocking as to how callus nixon sounded. you mentioned the story of a black soldier denied burial in a white cemetery. you paint a compassionate picture from what some of those tapes showed. was he more callous than his predecessors, and is it fair to judge him by today's standards. >> i am sure lyndon johnson would use language that would shock nixon. you have to ask what you do now. you mention the jewish negative comments in the obviously office. at the same time richard nixon launched app air lift saving israel, saying send everything we've got. they saved israel. and others say richard nixon was the best friends israel had, and he tried to bring
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israel out of the soviet block. there's no doubt that there are a lot of moments that are improving and undefencible. if you look at what the man did, and what in public, he desegregated the south. did he make bad comments about african-americans, not as bad as johnson, but probably did. look at what he did. the achievements are astonishing, especially in the first term. >> i want to get to a couple of news topics. you bring up israel, the 1967 war. somewhat social for what we see in the region, what do you think the u.s. role should be. >> it should be to end the war as soon as we can. people are suffering. 440,000 out of their homes. 414,000 dead.
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the is recallies i hope the humanitarian ceasefires lasts. i think the israelis . i don't think binyamin netanyahu will get off the west bank, dividing jerusalem, so i think i'm not very optimistic in the long run, but i hope in the short run we can stop the worst of what is doing on. >> what about ukraine, you wrote that we need to engage vladimir putin. last night i asked former u.s. ambassador. it was responded that a metaphor for vladimir putin was a roving tiger, we need to control him. aren't you concerned that he's trying to ce create a mini soviet union. >> they recap fewer crimea. it's a naval base. it seems to me normal big politics.
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with regard to eastern ukraine, he has not invaded, he's aiding the rebels. in the long run - i worked for ronald reagan. both tried to bring russia closer to us. to end the cold war. regan turned russia under his - upped the tenure, became the evil empire to a place where he could go through red care. i believe russia belongs to the west. i thank putin for all the things done, which are reactive. he can still be a man we can deal with. outside the west, it's a horrible strategic mistake and an unnecessary one. >> there's only a couple of seconds left. >> what do you think nixon would think about your positions,
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given that he was engaged with the world. >> take a look at read-nixon's speech on gaum. in future wars, the united states should stay out as far as ground forces are concerned. we should provide help and assistance to those fighting, but they should fight themselves. there was - nixon, surprising me, in the days of the cold war. nixon would not want to involve us in syria, or in the - in the ukraine. i don't think he would have gone to war in iraq. they probably thought i'd become an isolationist and mistaken. >> pat buchanan, a pleasure to have you with us again. >> time to see what is trending on the web. >> this comes on a day that investigators are timely able to reach the mh17 crash site.
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soldiers a russian soldier posted are getting attention. he posted a photo from a base in southern russia, a week later and on 5 july, according to the social media profile, he posted these. according to instagram's geolocating tool they were uploaded in rebel controlled eastern ukraine. on 7 july he's back in russia, where he's appearing to be stationed. he posted this and said: . >> this picture he uploaded sunday alerted people to his existence in the first place. in it he writes: . >> a book missile is what ukranian and u.s. say is what was used to shoot down flight 17. there's no evidence linking him
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to the fight. some wonder if the fighters point to pro-russian rebel forces as the culprit. let us know what you think. a russian law-maker announced he wanted soldiers to stop posting to social media whilst on active duty. an american born suicide bomber goes undetected before striking in syria. how did it happen, and what is done to stop them coming home. and has american politics abandoneded young black whim. >> and the crazy business of baseball memor abillia, leading >> there is a tendency to downplay human rights in favor of commercial interests >> harsh realities of a world in crisis >> governments care about their reputation... >> can roth, head of human rights watch
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. >> this man grew up in florida, playing basketball and heading to college, hanging out with friends. in may, when he packed explosives in a truck and embarked on a suicide attack his family was shocked.
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they this no idea he was in syria. now we have learnt something more alarming. after the tripping with the syrian terrorists, he returned to the united states for several months before heading back. how serious a threat are the radicalized citizens when they return home. joining me now is michael schmitt, who broke the story states. >> let's begin with the news that this young man after travelling and receiving training in syria, came back to the united states before heading to syria. countertorism officials say they had no idea he was in syria. >> well, what they are saying is when he comes back to the united states after his first trip to syria, they had no idea that he had trained at the al-nusra training camp. that is concerning, because it
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highlights the problem, there's no one-way flights. it's a difficult time tracking who goes in. in this instance, it looks look they had a little information that they knew he went to syria, but didn't know he was at the example and had been back in the united states for several months. >> shouldn't they have been aware of him and paying attention. you quote initial saying this is a big miss by law enforcement, and there were some red flags. >> well, we are not sure how many red flags they missed. the fbi said so many men's have gone to syria that you can't investigate all of them. you can only really investigate those that you have deep suspicions about or suspicions about, and the ties to any of these groups. in this instance they said that at the time haul they knew
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was -- haul thee knew was he had -- all they knew, he had gone to syria, they didn't though he'd been at the camp. >> he released a half hour video. let's listen to some of that. >> we are coming for you, marqumark my words. you think you killed osama bin laden, you did nothing, you september an agenda. you sent him to paradise. you thick you won, you never won. you'll never defeat islam. addressing that to president obama, some strong words. to anybody watching that, scary. there could be thousands of we were fighters training in syria, and at least 100 americans from some estimates, what great a risk are we looking at here? >> that's the question. it seems in this instance he was focussed on doing something in syria. the concern that law enforcement
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officials have is that if the guys go to training camps, are they going to launch skills or to launch skills to use on the battlefield in the fight there. we haven't seen anyone coming back from syria and launched an attack in the united states. the question is are these individuals who are going over there focused specifically on syria, or is this sort of a larger way to get folks training and back to the united states. that's the question. >> a day before you published your article the times publish the a piece saying fears were overblown, they were going to syria to protect fellow muslims. we have seen a french citizens went to syria and committed a terror attack in belgium. some you quoted think syria could become a worst wreeding ground for terrorists.
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>> the thing about syria is it's easier to get to than afghanistan. all you have to do is fly to istanbul, and the border is porous and ease why i to go over. it's not like you have to go through customs. you have to smuggle over the border and you are there much the problem is that that is easy to do, getting to iraq and afghanistan during the height of those conflict was difficult. they are concerned about the easiness in the travel. >> and on the counterterrorism side, ultimately it's a battle between privacy and security. one former ocircumstantial said minister want to keep the metadata private. they aspect counterterrorism to be on top of the people that might come back to the united attack. >> that's the tension of the fbi.
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how invasive can they be, if something happens they'll be criticise. if thinks don't happen and they are being invasive, they'll be criticised. how do they balance it, they don't have the resources to investigate every person that goes to turkey. how far do they want to go. >> we can't investigate people when we have to have information to raise concerns. in this instance they said we didn't have the information until he was back in syria the final time, when he decided to launch the attack. >> a lot to worry about. we appreciate you joining us to talk about it. coming up, african-americans supported president obama, now there's push back among white women.
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next. . >> today's data dive goes after a bizarre business. august is 25 years since pete rose was banned for betting on major league games, ipp clulding one -- including some where he was a player manager. the ban increased the value of his autograph pt the website sells a copy of his management. rose works a regular shift for his company in los angeles. four four days a week he spept five hours. he paid a flat fee. a ball, 99 and a bat 200. incredibly rows's sales exceed 10,000 bucks a day. a ball he signs with his record number of hits.
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42-56 can sell for more than $200. when he signs, i am sure he pent is on baseball. rows's rates are higher than the actual hall of famers. people may be paying to hang out with them. he gives batting advise to kids, ensures stories and jokes with adults. discrazed pitcher is notorious for his remarks in new york city, gays and minorities. york. den tours sold at auction for 6500 much the daughter of a dentist brought them. two pieces of gum chewed during a game. even more strange the jock strap. ryan, the one used
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during a no hitter sold 25,000. people loved players personal items.
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did president obama's announcement of a programme to help african american males come at the expense of african american women. my brother's keeper is a $200 million offering employment training and mentorship to hispanic and african american boys. the girls president obama forgot raises concerns about domestic violence. we have a law professor that joins us and the executive director of the african-american policy forum. you took issue of girls from my brothers keeper saying:
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. >> now, i know you don't want a separate initiative for girls. happen? >> the most important thing that could happen is that the president and many who support my brother's keeper acknowledge that girls of colour, afghan american girls, brown girls are suffering and looking at the same stunted opportunities as we wrote and suffering things that are different from those that are confronting their brothers. frankly, our entire point is this is the long-awaited for racial justice initiative. it needs to be inclusive. we shouldn't step backwards and focus on half of the population suffering. >> you went to
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a meeting after your group criticised my brothers keeper. but you say it amounts to an abandonment by the president of women of colour, some of his biggest supporters. action. >> it depends whether the information we are looking for, calls from people to say we need to pay attention, we need to know more about what is happening. actually are taken up. one aspect of my brother's keeper is particularly baffling is that government agencies are instructed to find information about how men and boys of colour are faring. and suggest best practices. there's no requirement to collect information about women and girls of colour. because we don't have information or little, pole don't know the circumstances of their loss. that could change. >> we have a lot of information about african american men.
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that is often a big part of the conversation because, you know, numbers show that more than 4% of african american males are ipp cars rated. there's talk -- ipp cars rated. there's talk about the lack of father figures, one of the great problems the community faces. >> one of the reservations that we have is a focus on the idea that the family is the source of problems. this goes back, it's an idea that black community will never be equal until the family structure is the same. we have moved behind that, open to all sorts of structures. what is important is where the family is located. institutional, not just family. >> if this is not modified, do you think there'll be an indirect benefit to african-american women. you say black women are better off as the argument grows. if we help black men, will there
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be some - maybe not the benefit you would like, but a benefit for afghan american women. >> there's never been what we are about. we are not about separate but equal and women of colour should not be put on the back of the bus. the point is what is happening to communities of colour is happening to communities, not to the agenda or a group. we understood that. now is not the time for us to turn back on the basic understanding that we soufr together and rise toot. >> you are making important points and you make them powerfully in the peace the girls obama forgot. i urge people to go to the web and look at it. >> that's all for now. coming up friday on "consider this". a.
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